okay, but you met dr. martin luther king, jr. it was kind of an unexpected meeting because the first job was at a radio station. you were doing the traffic and -- . >> yes, i was working the black operated programs. he was a friend of our national salesmen, when wasn't there to do an event. he was there to it is and relax and find a moment to be quiet and i was the traffic manager. i kept the commercials going and i always worked late so i was there at night. he would come occasionally to visit his frienders frank clark and i would almost always be there and the single day was when frank walked in with dr. king and he said you nomar tin, don't new i said no, i don't nomar tin. of course there were many occasions where i covered him on actual events. >> >> and you said you were on the phone with bill, your husband, right? >> yes. >> you said bill, you will never guess who is here! >> yes.